@jaan (intro here) would like to discuss his findings about how openEHR could help implement CDS with OpenMRS. Jaan has been doing some research and had a lot of exchanges with various medical informatics folks over the past few weeks. He would like to run us through his findings and hear the voice of the OpenMRS Community on the subject.
Could we do that this upcoming Monday and keep a slot for Jaan and his topic?
For those unfamiliar with openEHR, I found this very good (30 min) read here from INTEROPen:
I really appreciated reading the attached white paper comparing OpenEHR and FHIR and its advocating for collaboration. I have long valued the clinical and informatics work behind archetypes and OpenEHR but have been reluctant to hitch OpenMRS’ model to it. Part of the reason was the high overhead of work required to model the data properly across our broad implementation ecosystem. Part of it was related to the lack of acceptance or valuing of the interoperability features. It is true that the world has evolved to now appreciate the needs for semantic interoperability, but I don’t know if the OpenMRS community has fully reached that level. Focusing on transmission (FHIR) rather than data modeling seems like an appropriate first step. I still am quite hesitant about tying data representation too closely to a CDR spec. I do think it is worth looking at how we information model the OpenMRS database and perhaps an intermediary stateless data layer using the OpenEHR archetypes for certain key concepts… such as pregnancy status, allergies, etc. Worth having a discussion about this!
I was intrigued to see the interest in openEHR from this community. I’ve often felt that there was a potentially a really good synergy between openEHR (for data) and openMRS and have spoken to your colleagues in India about the potential. I’d be more than happy to field any questions that come out of your meeting.
I have been closely involved in openEHR in a few guises over many ears and am just about to step down as Director of openEHR International.
I think you and I have chatted about openEHR and openMRS in the past at MedInfo. If it was not inappropriate, I’d be happy to attend any rescheduled call to answer questions.
Over the last week, the timing of our Technical Action Committee (TAC) calls was in flux to accommodate the OpenMRS 3 Product & Design call. Now that we’ve confirmed the new time for TAC calls (4pm UTC), we can get this topic rescheduled.
TAC calls will now take place on Mondays at 4pm UTC.
We should probably give people at least a week or two notice for this CDS topic. There’s an AMIA Clinical Informatics Conference the week of 23 May and 30 May is a US holiday, so…
@ianmcnicoll, how about the following week (23 May @ 4pm UTC)? If that works for you, then we can check with others and, assuming we have a quorum, I can make it work with my schedule.
I’m not actually back until later that day. I’m on a hike in the Scottish wilderness or I would try to join remotely and the following week isa public holiday here.
This tool was built with our collaborators, and the 501c3 I started is releasing it on Epic’s AppMarket, and I’d love to discuss how to get it into OpenMRS as well (I’m also working with the lead architect of OpenEHR to ensure it works globally).
This tool detects fractures in children’s upper extremity X-Rays, which can cause lifelong disability if not correctly addressed. However, in several countries where OpenEHR, OpenMRS, DHIS2 etc are the only option, there are few radiologists (e.g. in Malawi the rate is 1 in 8.8M). So our goal is to estimate the DALYs saved compared to commercial EHRs like Epic.