Hi everybody! My idea is to use the medication ordering tab in Bahmni to record IVs ordered but in a very limited way. So I would like to add the ‘Hour(s)’ and ‘Minute(s)’ to the Duration units (more on this specific task in another coming thread and likely a PR too) and record IVs such as for ins…

@mddubey : how did we handle this in BD? @mksrom : in the first example, what does 30 mins mean? If the “immediately” means - apply it now, but apply this once - then, wouldn’t frequency be just 1, and instructions as “Immediately”? Bahmni default demo, has “Hours”, and mins can also be added. Note, …

In my first example, ‘30 min’ is the duration of the treatment. The way doctors order IVs is that they prescribe a total quantity to be given in a certain amount of time (at least that’s what has been described to me): 250ml given in 30minutes Or another example would 250ml given in 6h for instance. …

i am not a doctor, but for the second example in regular language ‘Take 1 patch of Nicotine immediately for 2 days’ doesn’t make sense to me. But ‘Take 1 patch of Nicotine once a day for 2 days’ makes sense and i would expect it to give a total of 2 Nicotine patches in that case. So my guess is tha…

[image] arjun: ‘Take 1 patch of Nicotine immediately for 2 days’ doesn’t make sense to me. But ‘Take 1 patch of Nicotine once a day for 2 days’ makes sense and i would expect it to give a total of 2 Nicotine patches in that case I think some patches can last 2 days. So what I meant is 1 patch…

@mksrom The medication screen in Bahmni has been primarily designed for OPD cases and only works best for some of the drug forms (Tablets and Capsules). A lot of changes are needed for this to make it work for drug forms like syrups, injectables etc. Current medication screen also does not support v…

Very good discussion. Here are some thoughts from past experience in building medication and IV ordering systems (including Bahmni): “Immediately” should not be used as a substitute for “Once”. As suggested above, “immediately” (often called “stat”) refers to how soon the first dose of somethin…

Thanks @jteich for your input. So I will not use ‘Duration’ to record duration of IVs but instead use instructions and additional notes. @angshuonline , @arjun do we agree that: 1/ ‘Immediate’ is not a frequency and should not be in the frequency list and even database 2/ Instead we should have a ‘…

It looks like that would work (the four items you listed at the top of your post and the graphic). Incidentally, even if the orderer left out the “over 1 hour” in the instructions, most boluses are given over standard rough time frames – about a half hour for 100 ml or less, about an hour for up to…

@angshuonline , should I create a Bahmni JIRA ticket for this feature?

[image] mksrom: @angshuonline , should I create a Bahmni JIRA ticket for this feature? If you mean a ticket for the “immediate” → “once”, that makes sense. In the longer term, we should add support to openmrs-core (or some shared module) for IV/Fluid/Inufusion orders and dosing, so that we ca…

Drug order: Should the 'Duration' impact the Total Amount when 'Immediately' frequency is selected?

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njjoram (joram nj) January 20, 2022, 4:53pm 18

found the solution here:

to add on the answer; the same exact letters of the item created must be used to create a new openmrs concept.