CIEL concept questions related to Case-Based Reporting

[burke (Burke Mamlin)]

@akanter,

We have a few remaining terminology-related questions for our Case-Based Reporting module.

1. Could we get a “Trigger” (aka “Provoked by”) concept for CIEL? We are currently using SNOMED CT’s Trigger (410658008) (aka Provoked by) as the concept for our event triggers – i.e., reason(s) for case report. We’d be happy to have a CIEL concept equivalent that’s mapped to SNOMED 410658008.

2. Any chance the new concepts you recently made for us have SNOMED mappings? Here are my attempts at mappings:

• Viral load test not done (164179) → Test not done (373121007)
• Treatment interrupted/stopped (164349) → Drug treatment stopped (182840001)
• Symptomatic HIV disease (164350) → Sypmtomatic HIV infection (80191000119101)

3. Does CIEL have anything mapped to SNOMED CT’s Narrative value (117364006) or similar? We need to include a free text comment from the surveillance officer and need a CIEL concept for this. We were planning on using CIEL’s Free Text Comment (161011), but would like something mapped to SNOMED CT or LOINC.

Thanks.

-Burke

[akanter (Andrew Kanter)]

@burke

Could we get a “Trigger” (aka “Provoked by”) concept for CIEL? We are currently using SNOMED CT’s Trigger (410658008) (aka Provoked by) as the concept for our event triggers – i.e., reason(s) for case report. We’d be happy to have a CIEL concept equivalent that’s mapped to SNOMED 410658008.

Any chance the new concepts you recently made for us have SNOMED mappings? Here are my attempts at mappings:

Viral load test not done (164179) → Test not done (373121007)

Treatment interrupted/stopped (164349) → Drug treatment stopped (182840001)

Symptomatic HIV disease (164350) → Sypmtomatic HIV infection (80191000119101)

Does CIEL have anything mapped to SNOMED CT’s Narrative value (117364006) or similar? We need to include a free text comment from the surveillance officer and need a CIEL concept for this. We were planning on using CIEL’s Free Text Comment (161011), but would like something mapped to SNOMED CT or LOINC.

1. Yes, of course.
2. These do already have SCT codes. Why do you not see them? Viral load test not done is mapped to: 416237000 Procedure Not Done (which is a situation, not an attribute). Treatment interrupted/stopped is mapped to: 394908001 | Procedure stopped (situation) Symptomatic HIV infection is correct.
3. I will add LOINC 48767-8 to the free text comment 161001 concept.

[burke (Burke Mamlin)]

Thanks @akanter!

@akanter

These do already have SCT codes. Why do you not see them?

Is there a place to see them without importing from Dropbox SQL into a local MySQL instance? I’m looking forward to being able to browse new concepts as they’re created on openconceptlab.org. In the meantime, I was just getting the codes from your Talk post, so couldn’t easily appreciate mappings.

[akanter (Andrew Kanter)]

Probably not. OCL would be the easiest. I can consider adding them to the table I use for the talk post, but I don’t want to create multiple rows per concept.