# Open Concept Lab

**URL:** https://talk.openmrs.org/c/projects/ocl/49.md

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## [About the Open Concept Lab category](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/about-the-open-concept-lab-category/5744)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [April 11, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/about-the-open-concept-lab-category/5744 "2016-04-11T16:55:10Z")

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Open Concept Lab (OCL) provides real-time electronic access to terminologies, like CIEL, and enables OpenMRS implementations to subscribe to a concept dictionary managed in a shared environment. The OCL community develo…

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## [Use of OCL in a French language clinic](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/use-of-ocl-in-a-french-language-clinic/48395)

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**Author:** [@daniel1](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/daniel1)\
**Replies:** 30\
**Last updated:** [March 8, 2026, 5:39pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/use-of-ocl-in-a-french-language-clinic/48395 "2026-03-08T17:39:42Z")

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We’re just in the process of deploying Bahmni and due to French being the primary language, we were thinking that utilising the CIEL / PIH / MSF OCL data would make more sense and aligning to what is already there, rathe…

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## [Source Mappings in the openconceptlab module](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/source-mappings-in-the-openconceptlab-module/34016)

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**Author:** [@ibacher](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ibacher)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [February 19, 2026, 3:02pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/source-mappings-in-the-openconceptlab-module/34016 "2026-02-19T15:02:26Z")

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I’m looking into OCLOMRS-1000 where it is correctly noted that the current openconceptlab module doesn’t add a mapping to the source of a concept. For example, when I import a concept from my custom collection that I pul…

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## [OpenElis All Tests Summary Report Queries](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/openelis-all-tests-summary-report-queries/46496)

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**Author:** [@aseembhube](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/aseembhube)\
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**Last updated:** [July 8, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/openelis-all-tests-summary-report-queries/46496 "2025-07-08T12:59:50Z")

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Hello Bahmni Community, Regarding OpenElis Lab Reports Section Reports \> Aggregate Reports \> All Tests Summary I wanted to know the Sql query for the All Tests Summary Report from where exactly the values drop int…

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## [OCL Quarterly Showcase!](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-quarterly-showcase/45935)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [April 29, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-quarterly-showcase/45935 "2025-04-29T13:30:35Z")

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Join us for the OCL Quarterly Showcase on Wednesday 30 April at 8am ET/12pm UTC/3pm EAT! This meeting will be a broader community meeting where we will share the successes of the past quarter, along with a brief discussi…

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## [Helping MSF sort through OCL concept import errors](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/helping-msf-sort-through-ocl-concept-import-errors/42743)

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**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [May 22, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/helping-msf-sort-through-ocl-concept-import-errors/42743 "2024-05-22T13:48:22Z")

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@mseaton, On this week’s OCL Squad call, @lisamuga was demonstrating some errors while trying to import concepts from OCL using the OCL module. The specific problem was being caused by a CIEL concept that had been loa…

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## [Quarterly Showcase This Week! Wednesday 24 January](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/quarterly-showcase-this-week-wednesday-24-january/41497)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [January 23, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/quarterly-showcase-this-week-wednesday-24-january/41497 "2024-01-23T17:34:11Z")

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Join us for the OCL Quarterly Showcase on Wednesday, January 24 at 8am ET/1pm UTC/4pm EAT! There is a lot of amazing work happening in and around the Open Concept Lab community. This is a chance to celebrate our progress…

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## [Recurring Blocker with OCL Concept Import into OpenMRS: Concept Name UUIDs](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/recurring-blocker-with-ocl-concept-import-into-openmrs-concept-name-uuids/40591)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/recurring-blocker-with-ocl-concept-import-into-openmrs-concept-name-uuids/40591 "2023-10-09T14:55:15Z")

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Talked with @jamlung about this issue this week; we’re hoping Joe + @paynejd + @burke + @sny can identify a solution in their usual meeting together this Friday. Here’s the details: There’s an error, which is usually a b…

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## [Quick Questionnaire to improve OCL Website](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/quick-questionnaire-to-improve-ocl-website/39838)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [June 6, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/quick-questionnaire-to-improve-ocl-website/39838 "2023-06-06T13:21:07Z")

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Hi everyone! We would like to ask for your help to improve the OCL Website! All you need to do is take this 5-Minute Questionnaire and provide your thoughts and feedback. If you have any questions or additional comments…

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## [SNOMED-CT as a source?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/snomed-ct-as-a-source/37489)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [June 1, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/snomed-ct-as-a-source/37489 "2023-06-01T20:07:44Z")

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Side thread from the discussion from Bahmni: SNOMED vs SCT conflict: @jamlung & @paynejd this doesn’t feel quite right. I realize we may need a paywall etc for SNOMED CT, but it should have a source in OCL, right? So t…

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## [Handling name type for synonyms within OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/handling-name-type-for-synonyms-within-ocl/39707)

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**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 24, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/handling-name-type-for-synonyms-within-ocl/39707 "2023-05-24T20:51:28Z")

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On today’s OCL Squad Call, we uncovered some inconsistencies with how the name type for synonyms is handled in OCL. Specifically, synonyms (like “CHF” for “Congestive Heart Failure”) have a null name type in OCL’s API, b…

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## [OCL's First-Ever Quarterly Showcase!](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocls-first-ever-quarterly-showcase/39397)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [April 14, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocls-first-ever-quarterly-showcase/39397 "2023-04-14T13:39:56Z")

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OCL’s First-Ever Quarterly Showcase Wednesday 19 April Join us for OCL’s first-ever Quarterly Showcase on Wednesday, April 19 at 8am ET/12pm UTC/3pm EAT! There is a lot of amazing work happening in and around the Open Co…

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## [CIEL mapping for immunizations](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-mapping-for-immunizations/38460)

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**Author:** [@insiderish](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/insiderish)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 2, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-mapping-for-immunizations/38460 "2023-02-02T01:52:49Z")

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Hey there, What’s the best way of creating CIEL-type mappings for immunizations? Thanks Andrew

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## [ICD-10/11 Collections in OCL?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/icd-10-11-collections-in-ocl/38322)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/icd-10-11-collections-in-ocl/38322 "2023-01-17T18:11:39Z")

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Hi @jamlung & @paynejd - I’m hearing increasing requests for us to include all ICD-10 or 11 diagnosis codes in our O3 RefApp. There are some situations where groups want a specific, limited list of these codes; however, …

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## [New OCL Feature - OpenMRS Cascade!](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/new-ocl-feature-openmrs-cascade/37959)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [November 18, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/new-ocl-feature-openmrs-cascade/37959 "2022-11-18T16:31:54Z")

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Have you ever wanted to add an entire CIEL labset into your own collection? If so, we have a new feature in OCL TermBrowser for you! Previously, getting all the concepts and mappings from a labset, convenience set, etc. …

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## [A note on exporting and importing OCL packages](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/a-note-on-exporting-and-importing-ocl-packages/37816)

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**Author:** [@ruhanga](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ruhanga)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 2, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/a-note-on-exporting-and-importing-ocl-packages/37816 "2022-11-02T16:34:10Z")

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Following conversation from the above post, what appeared like an OCL .zip export containing coded questions and their answers not being loaded by the openconceptlab api correctly i.e. the questions not getting filled w…

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## [Basics of Collection Management in OCL – New Video Series Released](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/basics-of-collection-management-in-ocl-new-video-series-released/37669)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/basics-of-collection-management-in-ocl-new-video-series-released/37669 "2022-10-11T22:09:04Z")

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Have you been meaning to try out Open Concept Lab (OCL), but are not sure where to start? Do you want to better understand OCL’s features and uses? Do you want to see OCL in action while learning about its capabilities? …

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## [Error 401 when trying to import a released collection](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-401-when-trying-to-import-a-released-collection/37394)

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**Author:** [@thomasrod](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/thomasrod)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 7, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-401-when-trying-to-import-a-released-collection/37394 "2022-09-07T13:39:08Z")

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Hello, I’m having trouble importing a released collection using the Subscription URL & my Token in OpenMRS. I’m getting a 401 Unauthorized error. HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized caused by: java.io.IOException: HTTP/1.1 401 …

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## [CIEL: Request for Concepts for KenyaEMR](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-request-for-concepts-for-kenyaemr/37275)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 16, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-request-for-concepts-for-kenyaemr/37275 "2022-08-16T11:16:05Z")

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Hi @akanter & @aojwang, taking this thread here so we can discuss easily :slight\_smile: So Andy, Anthony is wondering if the concepts for the queuing module can be added to CIEL. I had put together these example concept…

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## [Error importing concepts](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-importing-concepts/37172)

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**Author:** [@opensolutions](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/opensolutions)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [July 29, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-importing-concepts/37172 "2022-07-29T14:08:31Z")

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While importing from the open concept lab module in openmrs i’m getting these errors. The concepts I created manually synced across without a problem however, those that i imported from ciel are the ones’ creating this i…

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## [Export version of OCL collection does not include all concepts and mappings](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/export-version-of-ocl-collection-does-not-include-all-concepts-and-mappings/37046)

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**Author:** [@opensolutions](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/opensolutions)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [July 8, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/export-version-of-ocl-collection-does-not-include-all-concepts-and-mappings/37046 "2022-07-08T15:58:14Z")

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From the Screenshot you can see that the export versions suddenly stopped containing all the concepts and mappings. I am not sure if this is a bug or something that i did. Is there anyone who has come across this or …

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## [OCL Concepts Export into Iniz Format](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-concepts-export-into-iniz-format/36425)

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**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [May 26, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-concepts-export-into-iniz-format/36425 "2022-05-26T04:44:59Z")

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We are investigating moving UgandaEMR concept management into OCL, however in order to reap the benefits, we would like to be able to download the concepts into an Iniz formatted CSV file to make it easy to load into our…

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## [Connecting on Terminology Management - June 3](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/connecting-on-terminology-management-june-3/36700)

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**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\
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**Last updated:** [May 25, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/connecting-on-terminology-management-june-3/36700 "2022-05-25T18:36:55Z")

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Connecting on Terminology Management: Sharing Experiences & Exploring New Ways to Get Involved OCL and OpenMRS Dictionary Manager teams are hosting a session during the OpenHIE Terminology Services call on Friday 3 Jun…

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## [Ethiohri: Medication Regimens: Decision on how to model regimen concepts?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ethiohri-medication-regimens-decision-on-how-to-model-regimen-concepts/36669)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
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**Last updated:** [May 23, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ethiohri-medication-regimens-decision-on-how-to-model-regimen-concepts/36669 "2022-05-23T17:14:44Z")

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The main thing remaining for Ethiohri’s w.r.t. medications is just codifying the Ethiopia HIV Drug Regimen options into concepts. @wamz, just following up on the complex discussion we had with @burke @akanter on last we…

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## [Error importing concepts into openmrs from OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-importing-concepts-into-openmrs-from-ocl/36415)

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**Author:** [@opensolutions](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/opensolutions)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [April 27, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/error-importing-concepts-into-openmrs-from-ocl/36415 "2022-04-27T16:49:52Z")

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Here is the error i am getting when trying to import concepts to OpenMRS from Open Concept Lab HTTP/1.1 204 No Content caused by: java.io.IOException: HTTP/1.1 204 No Content at org.openmrs.module.openconceptlab.clien…

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## [Upcoming OCL Office Hours - March 24](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/upcoming-ocl-office-hours-march-24/36165)

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**Author:** [@paynejd](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/paynejd)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 19, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/upcoming-ocl-office-hours-march-24/36165 "2022-03-19T14:06:14Z")

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Join Open Concept Lab (OCL) on March 24 from 10-11 a.m. (EDT) / 2-3 p.m. (UTC) for the first Office Hours event of 2022. At this event, all OCL users, community members, and those interested in these tools are invited t…

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## [Building conventions for Concept IDs in OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/building-conventions-for-concept-ids-in-ocl/34809)

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**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [November 17, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/building-conventions-for-concept-ids-in-ocl/34809 "2021-11-17T15:29:41Z")

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Based in part on this conversation, we need a strategy & consensus on how we identify concepts within OCL and as we pull them into OpenMRS. Up until the PIH dictionary import, we’ve been using the OpenMRS Concept ID when…

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## [Palestine country missing under CIEL:165657](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/palestine-country-missing-under-ciel-165657/35394)

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**Author:** [@jofrancisco](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jofrancisco)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [January 6, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/palestine-country-missing-under-ciel-165657/35394 "2022-01-06T20:46:15Z")

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Hello everyone, There was noticed that Palestine is missing under the concept CIEL:165657 (165657AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA). This country is used for nationality, under HSU registration. Do you think it will be …

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## [Idea: Tags in OCL (vs Attributes?)](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/idea-tags-in-ocl-vs-attributes/34944)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [December 1, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/idea-tags-in-ocl-vs-attributes/34944 "2021-12-01T13:35:48Z")

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@michaelbontyes recently raised on Slack the idea of “tagging” concepts - and the more I think about it, the more I want this feature too! This is important and relevant for MSF, but increasingly relevant even for me as …

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## [Concept Numeric Ranges: Should "High" mean n+1...?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-numeric-ranges-should-high-mean-n-1/35078)

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**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 11, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-numeric-ranges-should-high-mean-n-1/35078 "2021-11-11T17:38:51Z")

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@burke @akanter @ball there is something confusing me here. In the example below, I am trying to set up Viral Load lab results to be flagged as “critical” if the numeric value is \>100. I expected that writing “100” he…

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