# Terminology

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## [Clinical Decision Support Tools Reduce Re-hospitalizations](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/clinical-decision-support-tools-reduce-re-hospitalizations/19561)

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**Author:** [@inferscience](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/inferscience)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 21, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/clinical-decision-support-tools-reduce-re-hospitalizations/19561 "2018-08-21T19:20:02Z")

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Clinical decision support tools are useful in assisting clinicians in standardizing clinical best practices with staff and patients. Providers can link decision steps to existing EHR information through clinical decision…

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## [Best Practice for Other Specify on Coded Observation Values](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/best-practice-for-other-specify-on-coded-observation-values/19085)

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**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 23, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/best-practice-for-other-specify-on-coded-observation-values/19085 "2018-07-23T14:33:12Z")

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I would like to find out the best practice for handling Other (CIEL:5622) option when handling coded concepts, where a user needs to enter a value that is not captured on the drop downs with HTML Form Entry Currently w…

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## [What concept(s) are you using for cause of death for your implementations?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/what-concept-s-are-you-using-for-cause-of-death-for-your-implementations/17523)

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**Author:** [@wyclif](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/wyclif)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [July 25, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/what-concept-s-are-you-using-for-cause-of-death-for-your-implementations/17523 "2018-07-25T09:52:01Z")

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Hi, I’m working on submitting a case report for a patient and I need to submit death info about them specifically the cause of death, in OpenMRS in order to mark a patient as dead, you need to specify the cause death an…

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## ["OCL for OpenMRS" application](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-for-openmrs-application/17044)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 27, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-for-openmrs-application/17044 "2018-03-27T00:53:16Z")

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Continuing the discussion from OCL (and connector) annoyances and problems: For years we’ve been waiting to/discussing being able to use OCL to manage OpenMRS concepts, but without any visible movement. After a recent f…

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## [OCL (and connector) annoyances and problems](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-and-connector-annoyances-and-problems/14633)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [January 10, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocl-and-connector-annoyances-and-problems/14633 "2018-01-10T21:05:59Z")

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I just tried creating a concept in OCL to sync to OpenMRS, and I ran into some issues that I consider blockers for asking normal users to start using this. The OCL UI gives you the option to say datatype=“None” but if…

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## [Can I import and OCL concept set whose members are in another source?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/can-i-import-and-ocl-concept-set-whose-members-are-in-another-source/14634)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 3, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/can-i-import-and-ocl-concept-set-whose-members-are-in-another-source/14634 "2018-01-03T20:58:07Z")

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I’m exploring the scenario where: there are CIEL concepts representing common encounter dispositions (Admit, Discharge, Transfer, etc) I have a “Bahmni default dispositions” concept (in a Bahmni source) whose set membe…

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## [Bacteriology Concept Set (for Bahmni)](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/bacteriology-concept-set-for-bahmni/14459)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 7, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/bacteriology-concept-set-for-bahmni/14459 "2017-12-07T17:53:02Z")

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Continuing the discussion from Bahmni and the CIEL dictionary: Here is a concept set that we use in the endTB version of Bahmni. I’m not asking for this to be added to CIEL as-is, but I’d like to know how @akanter wants…

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## [What are your expectations/requirements/wish list for CIEL & OCL?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/what-are-your-expectations-requirements-wish-list-for-ciel-ocl/11572)

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**Author:** [@paynejd](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/paynejd)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 9, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/what-are-your-expectations-requirements-wish-list-for-ciel-ocl/11572 "2017-11-09T17:42:22Z")

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Hi all, we are drafting what a more reliable and sustainable terminology service to the OpenMRS based on OCL and CIEL would look like to inform planning/roadmaps/resourcing/etc -- and we'd like to get everyone's input! T…

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## [Thoughts about using concept sets (instead of dedicated lookup tables) for provider roles and specialties](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/thoughts-about-using-concept-sets-instead-of-dedicated-lookup-tables-for-provider-roles-and-specialties/12926)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 8, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/thoughts-about-using-concept-sets-instead-of-dedicated-lookup-tables-for-provider-roles-and-specialties/12926 "2017-11-08T23:15:11Z")

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@akanter On today’s design forum we discussed support for Provider Roles in openmrs-core. TRUNK-4791 We’re planning to add two columns to the Provider object: role … equivalent to FHIR’s PractitionerRole.code specia…

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## [Problem Statement and possibilities for Concept Overrides](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/problem-statement-and-possibilities-for-concept-overrides/13288)

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**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/problem-statement-and-possibilities-for-concept-overrides/13288 "2017-09-20T07:41:33Z")

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Continuing the discussion from \[SOLVED\] Changing the Preferred name for CIEL Concepts: The problem statement is need for ability override the default concept name on the UI and in the back end for SQL queries. Current …

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## [Specimen Source](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/specimen-source/13361)

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**Author:** [@jaks80](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jaks80)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/specimen-source/13361 "2017-09-18T21:44:58Z")

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Hi, There are two specimem source concept in CIEL Dictionary. Specimen sources (162476AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) -Class: ConvSet Specimen source (159959AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) - Class: Question Which o…

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## [\[SOLVED\] Changing the Preferred name for CIEL Concepts](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/solved-changing-the-preferred-name-for-ciel-concepts/9345)

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**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 29, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/solved-changing-the-preferred-name-for-ciel-concepts/9345 "2017-08-29T15:13:39Z")

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@akanter There are cases where I would like to change the using a CIEL concept say 161558 - Patient tested for sexually transmitted illness in current visit I would like to change the preferred label in English to “Pat…

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## [Is there an HL7 OID for CIEL?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/is-there-an-hl7-oid-for-ciel/9888)

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**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/is-there-an-hl7-oid-for-ciel/9888 "2017-08-07T14:06:05Z")

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Hey @akanter, I recently registered an HL7 OID 2.16.840.1.113883.3.7194 for OpenMRS. Have you registered an HL7 OID for CIEL? If not, would you be interested in getting one? We’re developing a CDA template for Case-Base…

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## [Type of Inpatient Service 161630 vs Department](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/type-of-inpatient-service-161630-vs-department/9422)

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**Author:** [@sletchford](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/sletchford)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [July 11, 2017, 8:26am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/type-of-inpatient-service-161630-vs-department/9422 "2017-07-11T08:26:21Z")

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The Coded Question 161630 has nine coded answers currently (attached screen shot, e.g. Surgical Service 161623, General Medical Service 161627, etc). Two questions related to how we should go about adding additional ser…

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## [Emergency and Power of Attorney Contact Constructs in CIEL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/emergency-and-power-of-attorney-contact-constructs-in-ciel/12262)

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**Author:** [@craigappl](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/craigappl)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [July 6, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/emergency-and-power-of-attorney-contact-constructs-in-ciel/12262 "2017-07-06T18:52:20Z")

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Hi @akanter, We need to collect emergency contact information (maximum 2 people) and power of attorney contact information for patients in OpenMRS. Each contact has a person name, address and phone number. We have crea…

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## [Moving towards using OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/moving-towards-using-ocl/11231)

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**Author:** [@jdick](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jdick)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [May 22, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/moving-towards-using-ocl/11231 "2017-05-22T03:31:48Z")

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At AMPATH, we would love to figure out a way to better harmonize our terminology with the broader community. Historically, our plan has been to continue to use our own dictionary but ensure that it remains up to date wit…

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## [Should we add concepts to CIEL and/or work with OCL?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/should-we-add-concepts-to-ciel-and-or-work-with-ocl/10683)

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**Author:** [@craigappl](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/craigappl)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [March 23, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/should-we-add-concepts-to-ciel-and-or-work-with-ocl/10683 "2017-03-23T21:43:33Z")

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Hi, I'm working with the Ona team on OpenSRP implementations in Zambia and Kenya around child immunisations. There are a number of concepts we aim to create in OpenMRS that support the mobile application's functionalit…

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## [Moving RefApp concept management into OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/moving-refapp-concept-management-into-ocl/10079)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [March 29, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/moving-refapp-concept-management-into-ocl/10079 "2017-03-29T11:37:09Z")

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(This was an email, but I'm copying and pasting it here for broader visibility.) I have attempted to define our list of concepts that are included in the reference application in an OCL collection here: https://opencon…

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## [Concept Dictionary Contribution?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-dictionary-contribution/9163)

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**Author:** [@ash082342](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ash082342)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [March 3, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-dictionary-contribution/9163 "2017-03-03T23:33:44Z")

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Hello! My name is Abby and my fellow student Tim Anderson and I were hoping to make a contribution to the concept dictionary. We were hoping to go through it and organize it better and get rid of some duplicates as wel…

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## [Best Practice for adding concepts to an Implementation](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/best-practice-for-adding-concepts-to-an-implementation/10074)

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**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [February 18, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/best-practice-for-adding-concepts-to-an-implementation/10074 "2017-02-18T00:28:44Z")

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What is the best practice recommended for adding concepts to an implementation. I have seen the following: CIEL Concepts: Use MDS packages from a dedicated terminology server What happens as the packages become nume…

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## [CIEL concept questions related to Case-Based Reporting](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-concept-questions-related-to-case-based-reporting/10082)

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**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-concept-questions-related-to-case-based-reporting/10082 "2017-02-16T21:35:58Z")

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@akanter, We have a few remaining terminology-related questions for our Case-Based Reporting module. Could we get a “Trigger” (aka “Provoked by”) concept for CIEL? We are currently using SNOMED CT’s Trigger (41065800…

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## [Question about CIEL mapping in OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/question-about-ciel-mapping-in-ocl/10039)

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**Author:** [@craigappl](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/craigappl)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 13, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/question-about-ciel-mapping-in-ocl/10039 "2017-02-13T21:29:29Z")

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Hi, We found this concept on openconceptlab.org for "Immunisation not carried out". It looks like the concept isn't mapped to CIEL and I'm wondering the change management process to get it added to CIEL. How should I g…

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## [CIEL and ICD10 Mapping](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-and-icd10-mapping/8082)

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**Author:** [@ayeung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ayeung)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [January 25, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-and-icd10-mapping/8082 "2017-01-25T15:33:44Z")

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@akanter, are all the CIEL concepts being mapped to ICD10 where applicable? Thanks!

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## [OCD and CPT codes in OpenMRS](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocd-and-cpt-codes-in-openmrs/9442)

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**Author:** [@nandinicbit](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/nandinicbit)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [January 7, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ocd-and-cpt-codes-in-openmrs/9442 "2017-01-07T19:50:09Z")

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Hello, Does openmrs installation comes with preloaded OCD and CPT codes? Also, what about clinical edits? For example A male person cannot have certain clinical diagnosis like female. If a doctor selects an incorrec…

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## [Help us improve Open Concept Lab, the terminology management service of the future!](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/help-us-improve-open-concept-lab-the-terminology-management-service-of-the-future/9169)

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**Author:** [@darius](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/darius)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/help-us-improve-open-concept-lab-the-terminology-management-service-of-the-future/9169 "2016-12-16T21:37:03Z")

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OpenMRS wants to improve the way that implementations manage their concept dictionaries, by having them mix and match their own custom concepts with well-curated concepts from CIEL in the shared Open Concept Lab tool. B…

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## [IDs for "Name of X provider"](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ids-for-name-of-x-provider/9115)

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**Author:** [@sletchford](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/sletchford)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ids-for-name-of-x-provider/9115 "2016-12-14T04:06:32Z")

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How should we handle the following in CIEL? For procedure documentation for a group of surgical training programs, we need to include the following types of questions: What is the name of the Attending Physician? Wha…

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## [Use a “Datatype = Coded” concept as an answer to a “Datatype = Coded” question](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/use-a-datatype-coded-concept-as-an-answer-to-a-datatype-coded-question/8839)

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**Author:** [@sletchford](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/sletchford)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/use-a-datatype-coded-concept-as-an-answer-to-a-datatype-coded-question/8839 "2016-11-28T19:12:55Z")

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Is it appropriate to use a "Datatype = Coded" concept as an answer to a "Datatype = Coded" question (or other coded concept"? e.g. Am I correct in assuming that it is appropriate to use "Fever" (140238, which is a Da…

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## [Duplicate Concept names in CIEL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/duplicate-concept-names-in-ciel/2779)

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**Author:** [@raff](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/raff)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [October 3, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/duplicate-concept-names-in-ciel/2779 "2016-10-03T20:42:33Z")

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We are in the process of testing the import of the CIEL dictionary from OCL into OpenMRS and we see a lot of validation errors like: Failed with 'Cannot save concept with UUID 28AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA' caus…

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## [concept reference source and mrrt radiology templates](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-reference-source-and-mrrt-radiology-templates/7885)

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**Author:** [@teleivo](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/teleivo)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [September 30, 2016, 8:52am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-reference-source-and-mrrt-radiology-templates/7885 "2016-09-30T08:52:23Z")

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Dear @akanter, we have implemented Management of Radiology Report Templates (MRRT) http://www.ihe.net/Technical\_Frameworks/#radiology in the radiology module. which are html files used as report templates. We have an…

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## [using "frequency" concept class](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/using-frequency-concept-class/7472)

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**Author:** [@sletchford](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/sletchford)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/using-frequency-concept-class/7472 "2016-08-04T08:48:01Z")

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What is the “frequency” concept class and how is it used? I don’t see it listed in the 2013 article on concept classes (https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Concept+Dictionary+Basics#ConceptDictionaryBasics-ConceptClas…

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