# Terminology **URL:** https://talk.openmrs.org/c/implementing/terminology/27.md [Latest](https://talk.openmrs.org/latest.md) · [Categories](https://talk.openmrs.org/categories.md) · [Tags](https://talk.openmrs.org/tags.md) --- ## [About the Terminology category](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/about-the-terminology-category/518)
**Author:** [@system](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/system)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [August 15, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/about-the-terminology-category/518 "2014-08-15T14:17:12Z")
Terminology management is fundamental to the success of health information technology. It provides the essential foundation on which clinical documentation, decision-support and interoperability are built. --- ## [New version of CIEL concept dictionary added to dropbox](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/new-version-of-ciel-concept-dictionary-added-to-dropbox/1749)
**Author:** [@akanter](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/akanter)\ **Replies:** 219\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2026, 5:07pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/new-version-of-ciel-concept-dictionary-added-to-dropbox/1749 "2026-10-23T17:07:29Z")
Going to create one topic so that people can watch this whenever a new release comes out! New version of CIEL dictionary added to dropbox for April 22, 2015. Happy Earth Day! Just wanted to let folks know that I am p… --- ## [2024-06-05 - Terminology Service Call - Looking Back, and Looking Ahead](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-06-05-terminology-service-call-looking-back-and-looking-ahead/49539)
**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [June 1, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-06-05-terminology-service-call-looking-back-and-looking-ahead/49539 "2026-06-01T17:11:46Z")
After a disruptive year for the global digital health community, the Terminology Services subcommunity (OHIE-TS) is getting back together! We’re kicking off what we hope will be a regular series of calls starting in J… --- ## [Input Requested: OCL Community Survey - 2024](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/input-requested-ocl-community-survey-2024/43780)
**Author:** [@kaalcumm](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/kaalcumm)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [October 21, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/input-requested-ocl-community-survey-2024/43780 "2024-10-21T21:05:12Z")
Help us understand the OCL Community of Users and design our 2025 roadmap with this 5-10 minute survey! Be sure to include your contact information if you’d like us to follow-up and to share more about joining communi… --- ## [2024-09-06 - Terminology Service Call - NHDD Framework Updates](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-09-06-terminology-service-call-nhdd-framework-updates/43539)
**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 5, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-09-06-terminology-service-call-nhdd-framework-updates/43539 "2024-09-05T17:25:30Z")
Hi everyone, I wanted to remind you all about tomorrow’s OpenHIE Terminology Services (TS) Subcommunity call, which will specifically focus on the National Health Data Dictionary (NHDD) framework that has been getting s… --- ## [How to map a concept to a range of reference terms?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-map-a-concept-to-a-range-of-reference-terms/43213)
**Author:** [@mksd](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/mksd)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [July 17, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-map-a-concept-to-a-range-of-reference-terms/43213 "2024-07-17T16:02:28Z")
Hi @akanter :wave: What is the proper concept map type to use in a case like this: Tuberculosis (A15-A19) ? Can we say that our “Tuberculosis” concept is the same as ICD-10 A15-A19? My guts say no, because A15-A19 … --- ## [2024-02-02 Terminology Service Call - NHDD Visioning and Planning](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-02-02-terminology-service-call-nhdd-visioning-and-planning/41578)
**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [February 1, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/2024-02-02-terminology-service-call-nhdd-visioning-and-planning/41578 "2024-02-01T18:12:50Z")
OpenHIE Terminology Services Call (Tomorrow) Friday 2 February 2024 9 - 10 am ET | 2 - 3 pm UTC | 3 - 4 pm WAT | 4 - 5 pm CAT | 5 - 6 pm EAT Join us to participate with the OpenHIE TS Subcommunity continuing the discus… --- ## [Current status of SNOMED CT integration with Bahmni and Co-existence with CIEL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/current-status-of-snomed-ct-integration-with-bahmni-and-co-existence-with-ciel/40881)
**Author:** [@akanter](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/akanter)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [November 30, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/current-status-of-snomed-ct-integration-with-bahmni-and-co-existence-with-ciel/40881 "2023-11-30T14:48:36Z")
It has been some time since I have heard the latest on the Bahmni implementation of the SNOMED terminology server. I see the updated wiki page here: https://bahmni.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/BAH/pages/3132686337/SNOMED+FH… --- ## [Country Republic of Moldova missing under CIEL:165657](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/country-republic-of-moldova-missing-under-ciel-165657/37905)
**Author:** [@icrc.psousa](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/icrc.psousa)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [November 15, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/country-republic-of-moldova-missing-under-ciel-165657/37905 "2022-11-15T09:24:11Z")
Hello everyone, There was noticed that the country Republic of Moldova is missing under the concept CIEL:165657 (165657AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA). This list is used for nationality, under HSU registration. Do y… --- ## [OpenHIE TS Implementer Series: Terminology Management with the OpenMRS HIV Reference Application (Aug. 5, 2022)](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/openhie-ts-implementer-series-terminology-management-with-the-openmrs-hiv-reference-application-aug-5-2022/37206)
**Author:** [@jamlung](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/jamlung)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 3, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/openhie-ts-implementer-series-terminology-management-with-the-openmrs-hiv-reference-application-aug-5-2022/37206 "2022-08-03T17:04:15Z")
OpenHIE TS Implementer Series: Terminology Management with the OpenMRS HIV Reference Application Join us at the upcoming OpenHIE Terminology Services call on Friday 5 August from 9 to 10 am (EDT) / 1-2 pm (UTC) for the n… --- ## [Cohort query to determine sum of time elapsed between 2 date fields](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/cohort-query-to-determine-sum-of-time-elapsed-between-2-date-fields/37073)
**Author:** [@priyajoshi](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/priyajoshi)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/cohort-query-to-determine-sum-of-time-elapsed-between-2-date-fields/37073 "2022-07-28T20:23:36Z")
Hi, I want to create an indicator report to display average doctor turn around time for the visits created in the openmrs. The formula to determine doctor TAT is sum(timediff between date\_stopped & date\_created) for the… --- ## [FHIR Mapping for Concept Sources not mapped as "SAME-AS"](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/fhir-mapping-for-concept-sources-not-mapped-as-same-as/37159)
**Author:** [@mozzy](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/mozzy)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/fhir-mapping-for-concept-sources-not-mapped-as-same-as/37159 "2022-07-28T14:47:55Z")
The FHIR2 module only maps Concept sources with SAME-AS map type. One Challenge we have with the IsantePlus-LIS integration is that most of the Test Concepts do not have the SAME-AS mapping to the LOINC source ie either… --- ## [WHO Medical Certification of Cause of Death](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/who-medical-certification-of-cause-of-death/34486)
**Author:** [@mksd](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/mksd)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [September 9, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/who-medical-certification-of-cause-of-death/34486 "2021-09-09T09:34:09Z")
Hi @akanter, At the ICRC we are making a first iteration at implementing a form to produce the WHO certification of cause of death: Starting with section I, the form captures two sets of data: The disease/conditio… --- ## [Concept Management Office Hours](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-management-office-hours/31681)
**Author:** [@akanter](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/akanter)\ **Replies:** 29\ **Last updated:** [May 19, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-management-office-hours/31681 "2021-05-19T13:38:44Z")
Everyone interested in concept management: We have discussed the need to bring together those people most involved with maintaining concept dictionaries and maps. To help implementers and designers better understand conc… --- ## [How to future-proof shared concepts?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-future-proof-shared-concepts/33134)
**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [May 10, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-future-proof-shared-concepts/33134 "2021-05-10T14:46:58Z")
Mwariri and I were just talking through some real-life concept management examples that the OHRI team is trying to solve right now. I think this connects with our vision of having a trusted Source that countries/orgs cou… --- ## [Record Observation with multiple answers - Best Approach](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/record-observation-with-multiple-answers-best-approach/33251)
**Author:** [@samuel34](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/samuel34)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [April 26, 2021, 9:31am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/record-observation-with-multiple-answers-best-approach/33251 "2021-04-26T09:31:19Z")
Hi all, I’m trying to develop a simple form having a field that requires multiple answers: I know we could record this using an ObsGroup but I feel like this is meant for grouping multiple fields capturing related d… --- ## [CIEL Licensing?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-licensing/32998)
**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [April 8, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-licensing/32998 "2021-04-08T15:37:34Z")
I heard an interesting question recently about CIEL: Will there ever be a licensing model, MoU/contract, or fee associated with using CIEL? Thought it would be helpful to publicly clarify. My understanding is that CIEL … --- ## [Sample Outpatient Lab Data & CIEL Concepts for common HIV Outpatient Labs](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/sample-outpatient-lab-data-ciel-concepts-for-common-hiv-outpatient-labs/31627)
**Author:** [@grace](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/grace)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [January 8, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/sample-outpatient-lab-data-ciel-concepts-for-common-hiv-outpatient-labs/31627 "2021-01-08T23:03:19Z")
In the MFE Squad, @nmalyschkin is beginning work on the new Test Results display (wireframes here). @jdick mentioned we may end up needing two next things: 1) Sample Outpatient Lab Test Data Are any community members a… --- ## [Concept for tetanus vaccination?](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-for-tetanus-vaccination/31150)
**Author:** [@mksd](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/mksd)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 28, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-for-tetanus-vaccination/31150 "2020-11-28T00:49:16Z")
Hi @akanter I see that CIEL:54 can be used to record tetanus boosters, but what about the initial vaccination (if that makes any sense)? Should we create a Procedure/Coded that is the same as SNOMED-CT:127786006? Cc @… --- ## [How to handle local adjustments of CIEL concepts within OCL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-handle-local-adjustments-of-ciel-concepts-within-ocl/30015)
**Author:** [@burke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/burke)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [October 3, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/how-to-handle-local-adjustments-of-ciel-concepts-within-ocl/30015 "2020-10-03T01:08:53Z")
@paynejd (and @akanter), During our OCL for OpenMRS squad meeting today (notes from 2020-08-26), we are preparing for an MVP launch of the OCL for OpenMRS frontend client and working through some of the real life issue… --- ## [Strange mapping in CIEL](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/strange-mapping-in-ciel/30232)
**Author:** [@ibacher](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ibacher)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 18, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/strange-mapping-in-ciel/30232 "2020-09-18T02:39:28Z")
I happened to be looking into blood pressure in CIEL and I noticed that systolic blood pressure (5085) is mapped as both BROADER-THAN and NARROWER-THAN LOINC 8480-6. The same applies to diastolic blood pressure (5085) an… --- ## [Immunization vs Vaccination](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/immunization-vs-vaccination/30144)
**Author:** [@reagan](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/reagan)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [September 8, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/immunization-vs-vaccination/30144 "2020-09-08T17:11:41Z")
Background Vaccination is when a vaccine is administered to you (usually by injection). Immunisation is what happens in your body after you have the vaccination Thoughts It makes more sense to have vaccination… --- ## [Concept Design Approach for Multiple Doses - Immunisation, Treatment etc](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-design-approach-for-multiple-doses-immunisation-treatment-etc/26724)
**Author:** [@ssmusoke](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ssmusoke)\ **Replies:** 40\ **Last updated:** [September 5, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-design-approach-for-multiple-doses-immunisation-treatment-etc/26724 "2020-09-05T14:20:00Z")
I am looking for the design approach and best practice for capturing/tracking multiple occurrences of an event within implementations e.g., Tetenas Diptheria does - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th final Antenantal or HIV Expos… --- ## [Adding Spanish translations for CIEL concepts](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/adding-spanish-translations-for-ciel-concepts/28993)
**Author:** [@rrameshbtech](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/rrameshbtech)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [June 16, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/adding-spanish-translations-for-ciel-concepts/28993 "2020-06-16T19:02:33Z")
Hi @akanter, As part our current work, we need to show the CIEL concepts in Spanish. But we have noticed that few are missing Spanish translations. We have given the list below. Could we add them to our CIEL concepts? … --- ## [ICPC2 mapping for Diagnosis](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/icpc2-mapping-for-diagnosis/28117)
**Author:** [@rrameshbtech](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/rrameshbtech)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [May 4, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/icpc2-mapping-for-diagnosis/28117 "2020-05-04T03:24:04Z")
Hi @akanter, As part of our current work, we want to show the list of diagnosis with ICPC2 codes. During our analysis we have found some of the diagnosis are not mapped to ICPC2 code. So we have attached the list of Di… --- ## [Concept for "Working Cancer Diagnosis"](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-for-working-cancer-diagnosis/27987)
**Author:** [@johnblack](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/johnblack)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [April 15, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/concept-for-working-cancer-diagnosis/27987 "2020-04-15T16:20:25Z")
--- ## [CIEL OpenMRS server for mds packages of concepts](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-openmrs-server-for-mds-packages-of-concepts/20131)
**Author:** [@ball](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/ball)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [November 12, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/ciel-openmrs-server-for-mds-packages-of-concepts/20131 "2018-11-12T15:45:24Z")
At Partners In Health, we still have a convoluted way of adding CIEL concepts to our OpenMRS software deploy. Hopefully this will be replaced by the ongoing OCL work. In the past, we supported an OpenMRS cloud-based se… --- ## [Qualifiers for diagnoses](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/qualifiers-for-diagnoses/19833)
**Author:** [@sletchford](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/sletchford)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 16, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/qualifiers-for-diagnoses/19833 "2018-09-16T20:21:46Z")
@akanter and all, sorry, this question may be already covered elsewhere, but I am wondering how, if at all, qualifiers (e.g. mild, medium, severe) can be used with particular diagnoses (e.g. Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI))… --- ## [Sample Project Management for OpenMRS](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/sample-project-management-for-openmrs/19693)
**Author:** [@pradana](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/pradana)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [September 3, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/sample-project-management-for-openmrs/19693 "2018-09-03T16:02:03Z")
Hi, I believe OpenMRS quite sufficient to support IT for a clinic, to record patient, doctor, nurse and medicine. The main objective of my implementation are : Record patient transaction Doctor suggestion for the pati… --- ## [Modeling HIV Viral Load results](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/modeling-hiv-viral-load-results/15841)
**Author:** [@mseaton](https://talk.openmrs.org/u/mseaton)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [August 23, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://talk.openmrs.org/t/modeling-hiv-viral-load-results/15841 "2018-08-23T14:00:30Z")
Hi all, We are looking into our future data model for HIV Viral Load test results, and I wanted to check with the terminology and HIV domain experts here for what they would recommend. Here is my tentative proposal bas… [Next page](https://talk.openmrs.org/c/implementing/terminology/27.md?page=1)